It Shouldn’t Be Expensive To Be Yourself – Dr. Timothy R. Clark

In this episode of Cocktail Leadership, your host, Kevin Withane chats with Dr. Timothy R. Clark. Tim is the CEO of Leader Factor and the author of “The 4 Stages of Psychological Safety: Defining the Path to Innovation and Inclusion”.

As you will hear in the episode, the term “psychological safety” has been around since the mid-60s but has exploded into prominence recently.

At its core, psychological safety basically means it should not be expensive to be yourself. So if your interactions are expensive, socially, emotionally, politically, economically, then what do we do as humans? We change our behavior. and we tend to withdraw and manage personal risks.  We limit ourselves.

Tim explains how his career took a major turn on returning to the USA from Oxford University, and how decided to forgo a career in academia to use heavy manufacturing as the setting to put theory into practice.  Tim even shares that he made mistakes.  I guess that is being human.  And he shares what he would have liked to have done.

Throughout our conversation, Tim is clear about exactly what leadership is, and towards the end of our conversation, Tim shares what success really is today.  And it is not about financial success for the leader and just returns for shareholders.

You can download a summary of the 4 stages of psychological safety here: The 4 Stages of Psychological Safety Summary_2020

You can reach Tin on LinkedIn, and at the Leader Factor website.

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The Cocktail

For this episode – I present the first “mocktail” to honor Tim’s suggestion of sparkling water.

Cucumber and Melon Spritzer – with a Cocktail Leadership twist

Serve in a Collins glass.


1/2 oz simple syrup

San Pelligrino Sparkling Water (any will do or use cucumber flavored)

1 cup plus additional cubes – Watermelon 1

10-15  thick sliced Cucumber slices



Freeze a few watermelon cubes and 5 cucumber slices.

In a muddling glass, muddle the cup of watermelon and 10 cucumber slices until you have a decent amount of juice.  Fill a collins glass with ice.  Add simple syrup, and fine strain the watermelon and cucumber juice.  Top up with sparkling water. Use a bar spoon to stir.  Then sip and enjoy while reading your copy of The 4 Stages of Psychological Safety by Dr. Timothy R. Clark.

To add the Cocktail Leadership twist (and make it a cocktail), add 2oz of a botanical gin (Hendricks works great).


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